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WinningExpert 		13-Apr 2010 Tuesday 12:20 AM (5120 days ago)               #1
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  		Dear Bro & Sis.

I would like to share my experience with Barcarrat

Few years back my business failed and was in almost 80k+ debt

At that time i was only left with only 200..

I do some very serious thinking and research on how to earn fast money.

Finally i make up my mind.

I decided to go to cruise to try my luck using my method and strategy.

There is nothing to lose for me i left $200 so i told myself to focus my mental strength.

So first time i went to cruise. I know the agent everything was free.

And the moment i step in i stay for almost 8 months.

I play Barcarrat.

Betting on Banker only each hand.

As i only got $200. i told myself if i win 60 i stop.

I play $20 per bet i know i can only last for 10 bets only.

Within one hour i win $50.

I continue for almost one week everyday hitting $60 i stop and continue the next day.

One Week - $420..

I decided to up my stakes $30 per bet and hit 90 i stop

Here my summary.

1st week - $420 - Per Bet $20
2nd week - $630 - Per Bet $30
3rd week - $840 - Per Bet $40
4th week - $1050 - Per Bet $50

Within a week i make a whopping $2940.

I continue to up my $10 bet per week and this goes on and i manage to recover all my losses and left a bit for myself.

WIth $200 to 80k possible yes is possible,

Always be disciplined and calm. Hit your target and just go off.

Remember there is one thing that you win over casino that is time.

Recently i went RSW 5 times excluding the $500 entrance still make a handy sum.

I start with $100 per hand. hit $300 i go off.

The fifth day was the most exciting day.

I play banker and come out player 5 times in a row. capital only 1000.
5 times lose 500 straight.

As i know banker will slowly equal player slowly. I always wait for a new hand to start first before play.
For the next 20 hand is player 15 banker 5..

I make my move on the 21st hand.. if place 100 each all lose 6 in a row i call it a day
First 6 hands Banker 4 Player 2.. WIn $200.
Now i have 700. So i decide to increase my bet to 110 each bet.
Next 6 hands is also Banker 4 Player 2 WIn $220.
I manage to recover my lose.
Now the total is Player 19 banker 13.
Now i have 900. I increase my bet to 150
Next 6 hands Banker 5 Player 1 - 600.
To my surprise i manage to recover back my initial loss and still win back my target 300.
By then the table become very empty i decided to call it a day.

Just want to say.
Believe and be patient even when losing you must wait for the right time to strike if player open more than banker from the start.
When i play banker everyone was playing player, the feeling was very sianz when i lose but i never lose the believe.

Banker always have the house edge..

As now i have a decent job and getting married soon, i decided to stop unless i really no choice.

You must know when to stop.. one day a bit one week a lot already.

Trust me if you want to earn a living. You must conqueror yourself and be a robot and not anyone influence your belief. A lot of times a lot of aunty keep asking like that can win meh banker almost every hand.
If you hit your target just call of the day.




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AstroBoyBoy 		13-Apr 2010 Tuesday 12:59 AM (5120 days ago)            #2
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  		quote originally posted by WinningExpert:
Dear Bro & Sis.

I would like to share my experience with Barcarrat

Few years back my business failed and was in almost 80k+ debt

At that time i was only left with only 200..

I do some very serious thinking and research on how to earn fast money.

Finally i make up my mind.

I decided to go to cruise to try my luck using my method and strategy.

There is nothing to lose for me i left $200 so i told myself to focus my mental strength.

So first time i went to cruise. I know the agent everything was free.

And the moment i step in i stay for almost 8 months.

I play Barcarrat.

Betting on Banker only each hand.

As i only got $200. i told myself if i win 60 i stop.

I play $20 per bet i know i can only last for 10 bets only.

Within one hour i win $50.

I continue for almost one week everyday hitting $60 i stop and continue the next day.

One Week - $420..

I decided to up my stakes $30 per bet and hit 90 i stop

Here my summary.

1st week - $420 - Per Bet $20
2nd week - $630 - Per Bet $30
3rd week - $840 - Per Bet $40
4th week - $1050 - Per Bet $50

Within a week i make a whopping $2940.

I continue to up my $10 bet per week and this goes on and i manage to recover all my losses and left a bit for myself.

WIth $200 to 80k possible yes is possible,

Always be disciplined and calm. Hit your target and just go off.

Remember there is one thing that you win over casino that is time.

Recently i went RSW 5 times excluding the $500 entrance still make a handy sum.

I start with $100 per hand. hit $300 i go off.

The fifth day was the most exciting day.

I play banker and come out player 5 times in a row. capital only 1000.
5 times lose 500 straight.

As i know banker will slowly equal player slowly. I always wait for a new hand to start first before play.
For the next 20 hand is player 15 banker 5..

I make my move on the 21st hand.. if place 100 each all lose 6 in a row i call it a day
First 6 hands Banker 4 Player 2.. WIn $200.
Now i have 700. So i decide to increase my bet to 110 each bet.
Next 6 hands is also Banker 4 Player 2 WIn $220.
I manage to recover my lose.
Now the total is Player 19 banker 13.
Now i have 900. I increase my bet to 150
Next 6 hands Banker 5 Player 1 - 600.
To my surprise i manage to recover back my initial loss and still win back my target 300.
By then the table become very empty i decided to call it a day.

Just want to say.
Believe and be patient even when losing you must wait for the right time to strike if player open more than banker from the start.
When i play banker everyone was playing player, the feeling was very sianz when i lose but i never lose the believe.

Banker always have the house edge..

As now i have a decent job and getting married soon, i decided to stop unless i really no choice.

You must know when to stop.. one day a bit one week a lot already.

Trust me if you want to earn a living. You must conqueror yourself and be a robot and not anyone influence your belief. A lot of times a lot of aunty keep asking like that can win meh banker almost every hand.
If you hit your target just call of the day.



Bro, how to regain 80k ?? i cant get you as u said 1 week gain 2960 or one mth get 2960? if one month get 2960 that mean is 8 mth * 2960 just near to 24K only??
if one week hit 2960 that mean is 8 * 4 = 32 weeks * 2960 = near to 94K++
which one u mean??



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WinningExpert 		13-Apr 2010 Tuesday 1:10 AM (5120 days ago)            #3
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  		Bro i have my own system and i stick to it.

For example

i raise my bet up to 10 per week.

I been playing for everyday.

Here my summary.

1st week - $420 - Per Bet $20 Win$60 per day x 7
2nd week - $630 - Per Bet $30 WIn$90 per day x 7
3rd week - $840 - Per Bet $40 WIn$120 per day x 7
4th week - $1050 - Per Bet $50 WIn$150 per day x 7
5th week - $1260 - Per Bet $60 WIn$180 per day x 7
5th week - $1470 - Per Bet $70 WIn$210 per day x 7
6th week - $1680 - Per Bet $80 WIn$240 per day x 7
7th week - $1890 - Per Bet $90 WIn$270 per day x 7
8th week - $2100 - Per Bet $100 WIn$300 per day x 7

2 months i already make about 10k using my own method of wealth management 80k is no problem and in fact i hit over 80k.

Bro understand ?




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Shota 		13-Apr 2010 Tuesday 9:50 AM (5120 days ago)            #4
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  		thanks for sharing bro Smile

btw u went casino everyday?
lol..woah!



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WinningExpert 		14-Apr 2010 Wednesday 10:22 PM (5119 days ago)            #5
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  		Bro if i need money i will do it..

be self content with what you have life will be so simple.




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  		can some1 do what WinningExpert did? then get back here and tell us if same ting will happen..



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  		yo bro... I got the same plan as you but not exactly the same.. Now what I need is a capital to start my plan.. Btw, why you want to get a decent job when you can earn around 6k per month using your method? When don't u save up till like 100k then go do a business and be your own boss?



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pohkeong 		18-May 2010 Tuesday 6:29 PM (5085 days ago)            #12
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  		Hi

i know its an old post but really like to know the 5 answers to those questions?


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WinningExpert 		20-May 2010 Thursday 12:05 PM (5083 days ago)            #14
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  		Please find my reply below on the 5 question

1)Do you change table to play barcarrat or just stick to one table?
I stick to one table only and wait for a new deck of cards to start

2)When you lose 5 times in a row, you say you will wait for a new hand to start first before play. What does that mean? Is it a new deck of cards or a new dealer?
This is very tricky and depends on high control you are.
If table began to open more player than banker.
For example first 20 games player 15 Banker 10. you lose 5 bets
You place 100 each pet bet.
My tagret is hit 2 bet game that means 200+500 = 700.
I will place 350 on the next 21st game or start a new deck of cards.
If luckily next few games banker is more than player open by 2,
I win and will close shop

3)Do you always record down the player and banker open sequence?
Yes i do but its useless. All games are independent.

4)Does Banker always have the edge? It will definitely comes out equal with player? That means I will have a higher chances of winning by betting on banker if that table had open player for many times?
Logically banker have the edge if not why we pay 5% to them.
Majority place on player coz they want to win full.
Remember banker always have the upper hand in the long run.

Hope i answer all the doubts below.

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thx. for sharing '

I've came across a table tt banker 66% n player 33%

THE RESULTS READS 12121212121212121212121212

P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  B (ALL THE WAY TILL LAST GAME)

  

i'VE WON $7500 STRIKING ON PLKAYER ONLI

THIS IS THE TIME I'M NEW WIF CASINO GAMES

NOW BACK TO THINK OF IT REALLY REGRETS

WHY STRIKING PLAYER EACH TIME N I WAITED FOR 2 TIMES BANKER THEN PLACE MY STAKES AT PLAYER

I COULD HAV STRIKE ANOTHER 30 TIMES ON BANKER TT IS $475 X 30

WAD A WASTED APPORTUNITY ,

NOW I'M BEST IN  PLAYING BACCARAT BUT OFTEN LOSE

 

 

 

 

This message was edited by goodwin54 on 20-May-2010 @ 1:08 PM



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  		there's no harm in trying.. lol.
thankls for sharing guys!!
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  		Gasp Gasp 8 months in casino???

u are really great Gasp Gasp



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HL Chocolate Milk 		07-Jun 2010 Monday 1:21 PM (5065 days ago)            #18
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  		quote originally posted by WinningExpert:
Dear Bro & Sis.

I would like to share my experience with Barcarrat

Few years back my business failed and was in almost 80k+ debt

At that time i was only left with only 200..

I do some very serious thinking and research on how to earn fast money.

Finally i make up my mind.

I decided to go to cruise to try my luck using my method and strategy.

There is nothing to lose for me i left $200 so i told myself to focus my mental strength.

So first time i went to cruise. I know the agent everything was free.

And the moment i step in i stay for almost 8 months.

I play Barcarrat.

Betting on Banker only each hand.

As i only got $200. i told myself if i win 60 i stop.

I play $20 per bet i know i can only last for 10 bets only.

Within one hour i win $50.

I continue for almost one week everyday hitting $60 i stop and continue the next day.

One Week - $420..

I decided to up my stakes $30 per bet and hit 90 i stop

Here my summary.

1st week - $420 - Per Bet $20
2nd week - $630 - Per Bet $30
3rd week - $840 - Per Bet $40
4th week - $1050 - Per Bet $50

Within a week i make a whopping $2940.

I continue to up my $10 bet per week and this goes on and i manage to recover all my losses and left a bit for myself.

WIth $200 to 80k possible yes is possible,

Always be disciplined and calm. Hit your target and just go off.

Remember there is one thing that you win over casino that is time.

Recently i went RSW 5 times excluding the $500 entrance still make a handy sum.

I start with $100 per hand. hit $300 i go off.

The fifth day was the most exciting day.

I play banker and come out player 5 times in a row. capital only 1000.
5 times lose 500 straight.

As i know banker will slowly equal player slowly. I always wait for a new hand to start first before play.
For the next 20 hand is player 15 banker 5..

I make my move on the 21st hand.. if place 100 each all lose 6 in a row i call it a day
First 6 hands Banker 4 Player 2.. WIn $200.
Now i have 700. So i decide to increase my bet to 110 each bet.
Next 6 hands is also Banker 4 Player 2 WIn $220.
I manage to recover my lose.
Now the total is Player 19 banker 13.
Now i have 900. I increase my bet to 150
Next 6 hands Banker 5 Player 1 - 600.
To my surprise i manage to recover back my initial loss and still win back my target 300.
By then the table become very empty i decided to call it a day.

Just want to say.
Believe and be patient even when losing you must wait for the right time to strike if player open more than banker from the start.
When i play banker everyone was playing player, the feeling was very sianz when i lose but i never lose the believe.

Banker always have the house edge..

As now i have a decent job and getting married soon, i decided to stop unless i really no choice.

You must know when to stop.. one day a bit one week a lot already.

Trust me if you want to earn a living. You must conqueror yourself and be a robot and not anyone influence your belief. A lot of times a lot of aunty keep asking like that can win meh banker almost every hand.
If you hit your target just call of the day.



nice 1.
U hit the jackpot.
I follow it and won 5K so far ^^
Within 2 week

This message was edited by HL Chocolate Milk on 07-Jun-2010 @ 1:21 PM





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99-percent 		19-Jun 2010 Saturday 10:39 AM (5053 days ago)            #19
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  		1 word to say , RESPECT Smile Smile Smile


Thanks for sharing , as I'm a fan of baccarat your strategy sure to seem fine.

As long as a few round you win 2-3 bets than it's ok . Cos I seen tables at the end of the shoe the total player is more than the banker like 30 player 20 banker or similar.


Remember guys , always remember the money in hand not the money that is not in our hands.

Another tips I would like to share is whack only with your winnings not when you're losing.



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  		from $200 to $80k you think this is possible in online gaming too?



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yukisu 		22-Jun 2010 Tuesday 2:09 PM (5050 days ago)            #21
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  		quote originally posted by cumlaudeee:
from $200 to $80k you think this is possible in online gaming too?



think is very very hard compare to u go to casino yourself







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  		so far from all the betting strategy that i have seen, baccarat makes the most sense.
If played the right way, house edge can be reduced rapidly and may even be advantage to those who knows how to capitalise on it.

kudos to you brother for being able to make a comeback. cheers.



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741223 		01-Aug 2010 Sunday 1:26 PM (5010 days ago)            #23
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  		quote originally posted by WinningExpert:
Please find my reply below on the 5 question

My tagret is hit 2 bet game that means 200+500 = 700.
I will place 350 on the next 21st game or start a new deck of cards.
If luckily next few games banker is more than player open by 2,
I win and will close shop




Hi Winning Expert. I am still confuse!!
Do you whack on larger amount if you lose per game?
Or strictly stick to $100 per game even if lose?

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WinningExpert 		10-Aug 2010 Tuesday 12:04 AM (5001 days ago)            #24
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  		quote originally posted by 741223:
Hi Winning Expert. I am still confuse!!
Do you whack on larger amount if you lose per game?
Or strictly stick to $100 per game even if lose?



Sorry for the late replky been very busy recently with work

Please find my reply below.

Normally when i bet 100 i will have 5k bankroll with me.

I can afford to lose 50 times

if player comes more than banker i will place 100 all the way and hope that banker will appear more than player...if i know that player appears more i will have to make a decision either to fight all the way or if i breakeven i stop and rest.

That why i feel increase or decrease is very risky and difficult to count play constant is the best.









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WinningExpert 		10-Aug 2010 Tuesday 12:05 AM (5001 days ago)            #25
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  		quote originally posted by HL Chocolate Milk:
nice 1.
U hit the jackpot.
I follow it and won 5K so far ^^
Within 2 weekThis message was edited by HL Chocolate Milk on 07-Jun-2010 @ 1:21 PM



Bro congrats keep it up do rememeber to donate part of your winning back to charity when you win.




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WinningExpert 		10-Aug 2010 Tuesday 12:06 AM (5001 days ago)            #26
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  		quote originally posted by jj21:
so far from all the betting strategy that i have seen, baccarat makes the most sense.
If played the right way, house edge can be reduced rapidly and may even be advantage to those who knows how to capitalise on it.

kudos to you brother for being able to make a comeback. cheers.



Bro you are right barcarrat is the lowest house edge provided you play one side only.




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WinningExpert 		10-Aug 2010 Tuesday 12:08 AM (5001 days ago)            #27
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  		quote originally posted by yukisu:
think is very very hard compare to u go to casino yourself



i tried online before and it works too but it best to go to casino just my personal thoughts




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  		quote originally posted by 99-percent:
1 word to say , RESPECT


Thanks for sharing , as I'm a fan of baccarat your strategy sure to seem fine.

As long as a few round you win 2-3 bets than it's ok . Cos I seen tables at the end of the shoe the total player is more than the banker like 30 player 20 banker or similar.


Remember guys , always remember the money in hand not the money that is not in our hands.

Another tips I would like to share is whack only with your winnings not when you're losing.



Bro the best satisfaction is using casino money to win their money.




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WinningExpert 		10-Aug 2010 Tuesday 12:10 AM (5001 days ago)            #29
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  		quote originally posted by goodwin54:


thx. for sharing '



I've came across a table tt banker 66% n player 33%



THE RESULTS READS 12121212121212121212121212



P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  BB  P  B (ALL THE WAY TILL LAST GAME)



  



i'VE WON $7500 STRIKING ON PLKAYER ONLI



THIS IS THE TIME I'M NEW WIF CASINO GAMES



NOW BACK TO THINK OF IT REALLY REGRETS



WHY STRIKING PLAYER EACH TIME N I WAITED FOR 2 TIMES BANKER THEN PLACE MY STAKES AT PLAYER



I COULD HAV STRIKE ANOTHER 30 TIMES ON BANKER TT IS $475 X 30



WAD A WASTED APPORTUNITY ,



NOW I'M BEST IN  PLAYING BACCARAT BUT OFTEN LOSE



 



 



 



 



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Given this trend i only play 6 games and hit 2 times i can close shop and go home early.




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WinningExpert 		10-Aug 2010 Tuesday 12:15 AM (5001 days ago)            #30
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  		Been to busy with my work and raraly went in this few weeks or months.

That times i was discussing with my friend hit one game from one table and hit another game from another table total 2 hit can go home liao.

You can only win 20% of your capital only if more than that must stop or just your kucky days.

For me i bring 5k inside. per bet 100 just bet banker.

Normally spend less than 2 hrs i can close shop and go home.

Win 200 per day one month is 6k liao.

Calm and bankroll 50 times (100 bet means 5k bankroll) and money management will help you to win.

Remember donate 10 % of your winning back to charity when you win.




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WinningExpert 		10-Aug 2010 Tuesday 12:21 AM (5001 days ago)            #31
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  		Below for your reference

1st shoe +6 units (Banker Only)
2nd shoe +3 units (Player Only)
3rd shoe +4 units (Banker Only)
4th shoe -10 units (Banker/Player)
5th shoe +1 unit (Banker Only)

Total you won 4 units from 5 shoes.

If on your 2nd shoe, you bet Banker throughout, you would have lost around 4-5 units.
Your 4th shoe, I can't determine how much you would have won or lost, but its a very common fact that betting on either side in a game will expose a person to lose more than the usual.

Let me explain why Player bets are lousy again.
If 1st shoe, 2nd shoe, 3rd shoe, 5th shoe, just bet on Player alone,
it would be as follow
1st shoe -7 to -8 units
2nd shoe +3 units
3rd shoe -5 to -6 units
5th shoe -2 to -3 units
(When open Banker 6, laying a bet on Player is lose full)
So this is a very good example why Player bets are lousy

Going to a casino got 2 kind of people. One is play to win. One is play for shiok. So unless the person play for the shiokness, then I got nothing much to say also too.
So you should avoid betting random because in order for you to lose 10 units in a shoe, your result out of 27 hands(27 hands only you lost 10 units) would be
around
2 TIE
10 Banker
15 Player
(Even if you bet Banker every hand, you wouldn't die so much units)
That is why I explained, many people blamed the bad streaks or whatever when they lost on Baccarat Table, but they never understood why they lost.

Saying just to bet alone on Banker is not easy. Not many people are convinced or even have the patience to do like this. That is why CASINOS love these people. And also why there are many Baccarat tables in casinos.

Buying Banker is not sure win or guarantee win, but long run, you will not die in the casino like many others. By reducing a person's losing percentage to the minimum, he is already better off than most others.




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  		I'm abit confused of what you said in the last post. Anyway i followed your strategy and won $700 on my last weekend trip to casino. Thank you for this wonderful tip.

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  		Just a piece of suggestion.. if u guys wanna try this method thread starter posted, i will recommend you to go MBS instead of RWS because RWS don't have many barcarrat tables as MBS.

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  		quote originally posted by WinningExpert:
Been to busy with my work and raraly went in this few weeks or months.

That times i was discussing with my friend hit one game from one table and hit another game from another table total 2 hit can go home liao.

You can only win 20% of your capital only if more than that must stop or just your kucky days.

For me i bring 5k inside. per bet 100 just bet banker.

Normally spend less than 2 hrs i can close shop and go home.

Win 200 per day one month is 6k liao.

Calm and bankroll 50 times (100 bet means 5k bankroll) and money management will help you to win.

Remember donate 10 % of your winning back to charity when you win.



Dear bro, may I know why need to donate 10% $$$ to charity? And which charity?

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  		quote originally posted by 741223:
Dear bro, may I know why need to donate 10% $$$ to charity? And which charity?


The money we win belongs to other people who lose.

To me i always donate 10% of my winning back to society.

Depends on individual.




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  		This is a fact.

I lost $3000 using this method. If you can win 80k from 200 using this, I must say that you are one hell of a lucky guy.

This is a game of chance. ALthough what you say is logicaly correct, as I have heard it too, it should not be a way of making money. You will still lose in the end.

Play for fun. Play within your limit. And if you are thinking of making 80k then it is better not to try.

Just my 2cp. cheers.



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  		Let me give you an example of a shoe (using your method) after 42 games:

1st 20 games: 10 Player, 7 Banker, 3 Tie.

21st game - 42th game: 18 Player, 2 Banker, 2 Tie.

I stopped after the 42th game.

I started at the 21st game seeing that player has more hands than banker.

I bet all on banker seeing how player always equals to banker (quote from your post).

This is not the only shoe I lost. So, people, please do not follow blindly. Play for leisure only. Cheers.



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  		quote originally posted by number1fighter:
This is a fact.

I lost $3000 using this method. If you can win 80k from 200 using this, I must say that you are one hell of a lucky guy.

This is a game of chance. ALthough what you say is logicaly correct, as I have heard it too, it should not be a way of making money. You will still lose in the end.

Play for fun. Play within your limit. And if you are thinking of making 80k then it is better not to try.

Just my 2cp. cheers.


Bro to be frank must impt you must set the right mentality right when you go casino. Use their money to win their money.





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  		quote originally posted by number1fighter:
Let me give you an example of a shoe (using your method) after 42 games:

1st 20 games: 10 Player, 7 Banker, 3 Tie.

21st game - 42th game: 18 Player, 2 Banker, 2 Tie.

I stopped after the 42th game.

I started at the 21st game seeing that player has more hands than banker.

I bet all on banker seeing how player always equals to banker (quote from your post).

This is not the only shoe I lost. So, people, please do not follow blindly. Play for leisure only. Cheers.


Thanks for the comment.
looking at the stats is -16 games which is very rare and guess is not your day. If you have a bad feeling should stop and move to another table or leave the casino.

There was one time i play a new deck.

PPPPP

each bet 100 lose $500 already zero bankers and many people crowding around you what will you do playing bankers.

I remember i still left 1.5k told myself ok 300 per next 5 hand. win 2 hit i go off

next few hands
PBBB

overall still win 2 hit i cover and leave the casino very lucky to win 100 already.

Just my thoughts right mentatily and your game play/bankroll is very impt.





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  		quote originally posted by WinningExpert:
Bro to be frank must impt you must set the right mentality right when you go casino. Use their money to win their money.



Do you have any winning methods to share? I often see tables with more 'Players' than 'Bankers'. What are the trends you normally look out for? Hope you can really share Wink

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Thanks for the comment.
looking at the stats is -16 games which is very rare and guess is not your day. If you have a bad feeling should stop and move to another table or leave the casino.

There was one time i play a new deck.

PPPPP

each bet 100 lose $500 already zero bankers and many people crowding around you what will you do playing bankers.

I remember i still left 1.5k told myself ok 300 per next 5 hand. win 2 hit i go off

next few hands
PBBB

overall still win 2 hit i cover and leave the casino very lucky to win 100 already.

Just my thoughts right mentatily and your game play/bankroll is very impt.



Thanks for sharing bro but more players than bankers shoe do apply more often than you think. I understand that banker has better odds. I understand about money management.

But what I do not understand is when to go in? Like I have shown, I went in after 20 games which has much more player than banker shoe. I lost. Anf this is not the only game. In fact, I do make money reading trends.

One thing to think about: Is the difference in odds between banker and player so marginal that this method is in fact redunant?



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  		Sorry bro winningexpert.

I have to say that I do not believe that you have won 80k from 200. I have tried your methods many times. Im sorry but it does not work.

Just my 2cp. cheers. Smile



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  		Let me explain why this cannot work.

1) There are as many shoe that favours player.

2) The house odds for banker although better is too marginal to help.

3) You lose 5% in which case if 30 shoes of equal player and bankers, you will have lost $75 if your bet is $100/bet.

4) BANKER AND PLAYER WILL NOT BE EQUAL IN A SHOE MOST OF THE TIME.

5) Just play at your own pace but manage your money well. MONEY MANAGEMENT IS THE KEY TO WINNING. NOT ANY OTHER STRATEGY.

Cheers. Smile



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canibal 		25-Aug 2010 Wednesday 10:46 PM (4986 days ago)            #44
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  		winning 80 k with 200 . 1 in a billion maybe !

let say my capital is 80 k and i gamble with u where u only have 20 , i can tell you no matter how u bet , you wont get my 80 k ......... .

look at the sin curve or cosinus curve , see where is the peak and minumum ..... with this ratio of 80 k peak vs 20 ... common is to exagerate !!!!!!

hope u understand .bet for fun is ok ... bet to rich better work harder .... Playful Wink Playful Cool Indifference Scared Evil Grin lol



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canibal 		25-Aug 2010 Wednesday 10:49 PM (4986 days ago)            #45
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  		SEAFOOD KING also want to sue Casino !!!!!!!!!

use yr brain la bros ! Playful Wink Playful Cool Indifference Scared Evil Grin



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  		quote originally posted by number1fighter:
Sorry bro winningexpert.

I have to say that I do not believe that you have won 80k from 200. I have tried your methods many times. Im sorry but it does not work.

Just my 2cp. cheers.



u r too smart to try ! win 80 k with 200 .... even with capital of 80 k also you wont win 80 k .... ok today u might win 100 k ... after few days .. you will DRY ..... casino has billions of capital ... even if you have million you have no chance ..... lol & yes bet for fun is ok ..... Playful Wink Playful Scared Evil Grin Evil Grin



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  		quote originally posted by number1fighter:
Let me explain why this cannot work.

1) There are as many shoe that favours player.

2) The house odds for banker although better is too marginal to help.

3) You lose 5% in which case if 30 shoes of equal player and bankers, you will have lost $75 if your bet is $100/bet.

4) BANKER AND PLAYER WILL NOT BE EQUAL IN A SHOE MOST OF THE TIME.

5) Just play at your own pace but manage your money well. MONEY MANAGEMENT IS THE KEY TO WINNING. NOT ANY OTHER STRATEGY.

Cheers.



I agree.
Especially if u are playing in Genting Malaysia if dun have a chance to win by betting only on banker in the "non-commission table". Non-commission is such that it will not tax u the 5% if u win on banker.But if banker is '6 points'' it will only pays u half (50%) of your bet meaning u bet 100 u are paid only 50.That mean when u win a game on banker with 6 points the casino already tax u 10 games cos' a 'commissioned' table only tax 5% on each banker's win.
There are only a few commission table left in the International Room to avoid people "cari-makan"!

I been gambling for more than 30 years lose over RM2mil and eventually stop.
Few years ago i and some friends try to work on my formula to beat Baccarat and roulette and eventually burned another 200k. My conclusion,there is no such thing as fix formula or system that can ever beat casino games be it roulette ,baccarat,blacjack et.. if not all the casinos will go bankkrupt.

However with a good gambling strategy and good discipline( like what Winning Expert or other forumers have metioned) u might stand a better chance to win a small sum on a particular day.
cheers!


Anyone interested in knowing more about gambling can visit this site:

u]http://wizardofodds.com/



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windersports_88 		30-Apr 2012 Monday 11:05 AM (4372 days ago)            #48
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Dear Bro & Sis.

I would like to share my experience with Barcarrat

Few years back my business failed and was in almost 80k+ debt

At that time i was only left with only 200..

I do some very serious thinking and research on how to earn fast money.

Finally i make up my mind.

I decided to go to cruise to try my luck using my method and strategy.

There is nothing to lose for me i left $200 so i told myself to focus my mental strength.

So first time i went to cruise. I know the agent everything was free.

And the moment i step in i stay for almost 8 months.

I play Barcarrat.

Betting on Banker only each hand.

As i only got $200. i told myself if i win 60 i stop.

I play $20 per bet i know i can only last for 10 bets only.

Within one hour i win $50.

I continue for almost one week everyday hitting $60 i stop and continue the next day.

One Week - $420..

I decided to up my stakes $30 per bet and hit 90 i stop

Here my summary.

1st week - $420 - Per Bet $20
2nd week - $630 - Per Bet $30
3rd week - $840 - Per Bet $40
4th week - $1050 - Per Bet $50

Within a week i make a whopping $2940.

I continue to up my $10 bet per week and this goes on and i manage to recover all my losses and left a bit for myself.

WIth $200 to 80k possible yes is possible,

Always be disciplined and calm. Hit your target and just go off.

Remember there is one thing that you win over casino that is time.

Recently i went RSW 5 times excluding the $500 entrance still make a handy sum.

I start with $100 per hand. hit $300 i go off.

The fifth day was the most exciting day.

I play banker and come out player 5 times in a row. capital only 1000.
5 times lose 500 straight.

As i know banker will slowly equal player slowly. I always wait for a new hand to start first before play.
For the next 20 hand is player 15 banker 5..

I make my move on the 21st hand.. if place 100 each all lose 6 in a row i call it a day
First 6 hands Banker 4 Player 2.. WIn $200.
Now i have 700. So i decide to increase my bet to 110 each bet.
Next 6 hands is also Banker 4 Player 2 WIn $220.
I manage to recover my lose.
Now the total is Player 19 banker 13.
Now i have 900. I increase my bet to 150
Next 6 hands Banker 5 Player 1 - 600.
To my surprise i manage to recover back my initial loss and still win back my target 300.
By then the table become very empty i decided to call it a day.

Just want to say.
Believe and be patient even when losing you must wait for the right time to strike if player open more than banker from the start.
When i play banker everyone was playing player, the feeling was very sianz when i lose but i never lose the believe.

Banker always have the house edge..

As now i have a decent job and getting married soon, i decided to stop unless i really no choice.

You must know when to stop.. one day a bit one week a lot already.

Trust me if you want to earn a living. You must conqueror yourself and be a robot and not anyone influence your belief. A lot of times a lot of aunty keep asking like that can win meh banker almost every hand.
If you hit your target just call of the day.



WALAU ....i laugh until peng when i read this....you must join the LIANG JIA BAN to do GAU XIAO XIN DONG Smile ......with you HAUSIAO....i think you must be a very good salesman.
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WALAU ....i laugh until peng when i read this....you must join the LIANG JIA BAN to do GAU XIAO XIN DONG ......with you HAUSIAO....i think you must be a very good salesman.
$200 win $80k........hahaha......you are the man.



IT SHOULD BE FROM 80K TO 200 . HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHA



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  		Your secret of baccarat jin ho chio, really. Last nite I pick up $500,000 on the floor, ho chio bo?



The moment i placed my first bet, the war begins.
And when that perfect hand comes along, I'll take the house.
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  		YES IT CAN BE DONE WITH VERY STRONG DISCIPLINED WELL HE MAY HAVE START WITH ONLY 200 HOWEVER AS HE WIN
THEN ITS NOT 200 ANYMORE......SO THE CAPITAL GETS BIGGER.....



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YES IT CAN BE DONE WITH VERY STRONG DISCIPLINED WELL HE MAY HAVE START WITH ONLY 200 HOWEVER AS HE WIN
THEN ITS NOT 200 ANYMORE......SO THE CAPITAL GETS BIGGER.....



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  		I found this method in the internet. Will try the next time.

1)Look for table that has random result, eg PBPBPBPB....this means their shuffling with the 8 decks is random and average.
2)Wait for 3 times occurence of a result, eg PPP or BBB happen, then you bet opposite. eg, open PPP, now you should bet B.
3)If you lost bet on B again, if lost again, bet B again. In random table, it is very hard to get a so called dragon, eg 7 times in a roll open P or B.
4)If you have large bankroll, you can choose martingale system, if you are passive player, bet using the sequence of 1-1-3. Means you bet 1 unit, if lost bet one unit again, if lost, bet 3 unit, if lost again...means open 6 time in a role.
5)can win at least 5 unit and above.

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  		Hi all,

First of all, allow me to provide you some info from my humble point of view.

1. If he is successful, why is he still working?

2. It is logical to say number of times player and banker evens out by itself in A DECK. But we are talking about 6-8 decks in a shoe. Besides the dealer will not deal all the cards in the shoe. Midway, the dealer will use a new shoe or auto shuffling machine.

3. If casino dun use new shoe, blackjack card counting and the baccarat card counting will give gamblers a huge advantage over casino. U all think casinos are stupid and naive?

4. Lastly, casino operations are existing till today for more than 100 years. If nobody since 100 years ago can come out a 100% win strategy, you think you are smarter than the rest of the gamblers who patron casino for 100 years?

5. To those who tried to even ask him to elaborate his 100% win strategy, sorry to say, you might have lost alot of self confidence and common sense to even ask something that doesnt exist. To be a gambler, you need to have basic self confidence and logical sense. If you are losing till you cannot think properly anymore, you should just QUIT! Yes I might sound harsh but you know the good intention I am coming from.

Smile



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I found this method in the internet. Will try the next time.

1)Look for table that has random result, eg PBPBPBPB....this means their shuffling with the 8 decks is random and average.
2)Wait for 3 times occurence of a result, eg PPP or BBB happen, then you bet opposite. eg, open PPP, now you should bet B.
3)If you lost bet on B again, if lost again, bet B again. In random table, it is very hard to get a so called dragon, eg 7 times in a roll open P or B.
4)If you have large bankroll, you can choose martingale system, if you are passive player, bet using the sequence of 1-1-3. Means you bet 1 unit, if lost bet one unit again, if lost, bet 3 unit, if lost again...means open 6 time in a role.
5)can win at least 5 unit and above.

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All such methods varies from day to day, shoe to shoe, dealer to dealer, gambler to gambler.

Baccarat is a game of chance and luck.

Its like 4D and toto. This number always come out, everyone thinks it will not come out. But it happens most of the time that the number come out again.

A huge mistake many gamblers made is assuming the possibility of player result after a long run of banker result in baccarat.

Logically speaking, the chances of Banker to open is higher than Player if the previous result is Banker and vice versa. That is the FORM of the shoe if you want to compare in Soccer terms.

Like soccer, Man Utd last few games keep winning, many punters will definitely bear in mind that the winning run will stop sooner than later. But the question is WHEN and the truth is the chances of that to happen for the next game is LOW simply because Man Utd have been winning.

So, after a run of 5 consecutive Banker, do you still think Player will come out easier or Banker? Blush



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Ah Hock is out of control with his gambling habbits. If you know him you should tell him to stop playing instead of recommending "tactics" that do not work. 



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Ah Hock is out of control with his gambling habbits. If you know him you should tell him to stop playing instead of recommending "tactics" that do not work. 


tactics r for those who can persevere through stormy day




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tactics r for those who can persevere through stormy day

Tactics are for those with a mathematical advantage over the house and discipline. Anything else leads to desaster when trying to be used as a source of income.



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Tactics are for those with a mathematical advantage over the house and discipline. Anything else leads to desaster when trying to be used as a source of income.


but still螳螂捕蝉黄雀在后
除了谨慎，还是谨慎




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Dear Bro & Sis.
I would like to share my experience with Barcarrat
Few years back my business failed and was in almost 80k+ debt
At that time i was only left with only 200..
I do some very serious thinking and research on how to earn fast money.
Finally i make up my mind. I decided to go to cruise to try my luck using my method and strategy.
There is nothing to lose for me i left $200 so i told myself to focus my mental strength.
So first time i went to cruise. I know the agent everything was free.
And the moment i step in i stay for almost 8 months.
I play Barcarrat.
Betting on Banker only each hand.
As i only got $200. i told myself if i win 60 i stop.
I play $20 per bet i know i can only last for 10 bets only.
Within one hour i win $50.
I continue for almost one week everyday hitting $60 i stop and continue the next day.
One Week - $420..
I decided to up my stakes $30 per bet and hit 90 i stop
Here my summary.
1st week - $420 - Per Bet $20
2nd week - $630 - Per Bet $30
3rd week - $840 - Per Bet $40
4th week - $1050 - Per Bet $50
Within a week i make a whopping $2940.
I continue to up my $10 bet per week and this goes on and i manage to recover all my losses and left a bit for myself.
WIth $200 to 80k possible yes is possible,
Always be disciplined and calm. Hit your target and just go off. Remember there is one thing that you win over casino that is time.
Recently i went RSW 5 times excluding the $500 entrance still make a handy sum.
I start with $100 per hand. hit $300 i go off.
The fifth day was the most exciting day.
I play banker and come out player 5 times in a row. capital only 1000.
5 times lose 500 straight.
As i know banker will slowly equal player slowly. I always wait for a new hand to start first before play.
For the next 20 hand is player 15 banker 5..
I make my move on the 21st hand.. if place 100 each all lose 6 in a row i call it a day
First 6 hands Banker 4 Player 2.. WIn $200.
Now i have 700. So i decide to increase my bet to 110 each bet.
Next 6 hands is also Banker 4 Player 2 WIn $220.
I manage to recover my lose.
Now the total is Player 19 banker 13.
Now i have 900. I increase my bet to 150 Next 6 hands Banker 5 Player 1 - 600.
To my surprise i manage to recover back my initial loss and still win back my target 300.
By then the table become very empty i decided to call it a day.
Just want to say. Believe and be patient even when losing you must wait for the right time to strike if player open more than banker from the start.
When i play banker everyone was playing player, the feeling was very sianz when i lose but i never lose the believe.
Banker always have the house edge.. As now i have a decent job and getting married soon, i decided to stop unless i really no choice. You must know when to stop.. one day a bit one week a lot already.
Trust me if you want to earn a living. You must conqueror yourself and be a robot and not anyone influence your belief. A lot of times a lot of aunty keep asking like that can win meh banker almost every hand.
If you hit your target just call of the day.




bro, true said
ride through the stormy weather (patient)
believe in your own structure (not influenced by big bet kaki,either wait for your timing or go to find other table)
here i would like to add:
know your enemy
never bet newly opened deck after you go in (if wana play must observe first)

i have recouped my 2016 losses, soon 2015 losses shall be recouped as well
if i can recoup all my losses, i will call it quit because it is wasting time and stressful
输钱输输健康输时间亲朋戚友是最糟糕的事




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Tactics are for those with a mathematical advantage over the house and discipline. Anything else leads to desaster when trying to be used as a source of income.


bro, how bout u? do u gamble?if yes,what is your status?
everyone has their own strategy (just failure strategy or successful strategy)
my upgraded understanding of bacarrat has served me well thus far
so im gonna stick to my own strategy
for sure bro justin has his own strategy, bro winningexpert has his,ah hock has his (just failed up to now nia)
the hit and run strategy ensures one greed is contained and before 黄雀在后reacts




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bro, how bout u? do u gamble?if yes,what is your status?
everyone has their own strategy (just failure strategy or successful strategy)
my upgraded understanding of bacarrat has served me well thus far
so im gonna stick to my own strategy
for sure bro justin has his own strategy, bro winningexpert has his,ah hock has his (just failed up to now nia)
the hit and run strategy ensures one greed is contained and before 黄雀在后reacts


I have been gambling since many years, otherwise I would not be here. However, I mostly played online and also pretty much only deals with a positive expectation (tournaments, comps, bonuses, etc.). Bonuses are a pretty tough call online these days but there is still some money to be made. Offline it all comes down to card counting or tournaments, but I prefer online play. That is unless I can have a good beer on a nice BJ table.  
 



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I have been gambling since many years, otherwise I would not be here. However, I mostly played online and also pretty much only deals with a positive expectation (tournaments, comps, bonuses, etc.). Bonuses are a pretty tough call online these days but there is still some money to be made. Offline it all comes down to card counting or tournaments, but I prefer online play. That is unless I can have a good beer on a nice BJ table.  
 


did u win overall?




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did u win overall?



Sure enough.



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good




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Bro...you try this....and let me know the result ya




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Project already closed wor..
some modification.

In any situation the bet max size should be N x 4.
Damaged 20% should go.

Do not go over this amount you should be fine. 

Now i roll $15 to $60 close shop every week because levy expired in June. 

 
Win/per day Total accumlate after 7 visits Bet Size Week
75 525 25 1
80 560 26 2
85 595 28 3
90 630 30 4
95 665 31 5
100 700 33 6
105 735 35 7
110 770 36 8
115 805 38 9
120 840 40 10
125 875 41 11
130 910 43 12
135 945 45 13
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Project already closed wor..
some modification.
In any situation the bet max size should be N x 4.
Damaged 20% should go.
Do not go over this amount you should be fine. 
Now i roll $15 to $60 close shop every week because levy expired in June. 
 







































































































































Win/per day Total accumlate after 7 visits Bet Size Week
75 525 25 1
80 560 26 2
85 595 28 3
90 630 30 4
95 665 31 5
100 700 33 6
105 735 35 7
110 770 36 8
115 805 38 9
120 840 40 10
125 875 41 11
130 910 43 12
135 945 45 13
140 980 46 14
145 1015 48 15
150 1050 50 16
155 1085 51 17
160 1120 53 18
165 1155 55 19
170 1190 56 20
 

Oic..thanks bro




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Yes agree




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and sing YING YING YING OLE OLE OLE




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secret of winning.. Run when hit target.  


i found out after i read winningexpert thread:
both of us learnt and realized after a big setback
last cny i lost till pantless
this cny i almost repeated the same fate
with last 2.5k
i decided to changed my strategy (came along with upgraded understanding of bacarrat)
->focus second liner (follow down or switch)
this cny alone i recouped my lost of 13k and made +18k (maximum was +23k, last attempt lost 5k and i decided to call it a day and fight after some days with family)

im grateful up till now i have recouped 70k ringgit! (2017)

hope can sing YING YING YING often




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i found out after i read winningexpert thread:
both of us learnt and realized after a big setback
last cny i lost till pantless
this cny i almost repeated the same fate
with last 2.5k
i decided to changed my strategy (came along with upgraded understanding of bacarrat)
->focus second liner (follow down or switch)
this cny alone i recouped my lost of 13k and made +18k (maximum was +23k, last attempt lost 5k and i decided to call it a day and fight after some days with family)

im grateful up till now i have recouped 70k ringgit! (2017)

hope can sing YING YING YING often



actually for soccer same what..

Bet x fh over 
Bet x3 fh over
Bet x2 fh over (optional)
Bet x4 fh over (optional)

Win 2 games , can close shop. 




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actually for soccer same what..
Bet x fh over 
Bet x3 fh over
Bet x2 fh over (optional)
Bet x4 fh over (optional)
Win 2 games , can close shop. 


soccer needs 45mins
bacarrat needs 1min




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actually for soccer same what..
Bet x fh over 
Bet x3 fh over
Bet x2 fh over (optional)
Bet x4 fh over (optional)
Win 2 games , can close shop. 


hi bro
what is claypot 4games
what is then your reaction game?

nowadays i rise up when i get sunny day




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actually for soccer same what..
Bet x fh over 
Bet x3 fh over
Bet x2 fh over (optional)
Bet x4 fh over (optional)
Win 2 games , can close shop. 

Yes, use winning money to apply on this 1,3,2,4 formula. hit 2 games close shop.
Lose any 1 game in between, back to 1



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this cny alone i recouped my lost of 13k and made +18k (maximum was +23k, last attempt lost 5k and i decided to call it a day and fight after some days with family)


Don't tell your wife about the little massagi secrets, hey! 



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hi bro
what is claypot 4games
what is then your reaction game?

nowadays i rise up when i get sunny day


Same 1 unit. Max bet must die die x4 units. Do not oversize bet. Very troublesome to fight back 1. 
 




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