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Dear Mr AB,

Should we consider recognising bottom 50 tipsters too for Tipster Championship? As per the discussion in this thread, https://forums.asianbookie.com/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=30&Topic=3257535 many members felt it can serve as a reference point just like the top tipsters as it's really no easy feat. 

Over the years, effort have been put in to spruce up TC hoping to create more fun and attraction for new and old members. Previously recognition was given to Top 20 Tipsters, then extended to Top 50 so more members have  a chance to look forward to something. So in the same breathe, this would be an interesting feature.

Bear in mind that the objective is not to shame the tipsters but rather as a form of encouragement to win something. We're already at the tail end of current season, it would be an added 'bonus' if it's going to happen soon. But if not feasible yet, perhaps next season onward. Just my 2 cents, thank you for reading.  

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quote originally posted by Nice_Guy:
Dear Mr AB,

Should we consider recognising bottom 50 tipsters too for Tipster Championship? As per the discussion in this thread, https://forums.asianbookie.com/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=30&Topic=3257535 many members felt it can serve as a reference point just like the top tipsters as it's really no easy feat. 

Over the years, effort have been put in to spruce up TC hoping to create more fun and attraction for new and old members. Previously recognition was given to Top 20 Tipsters, then extended to Top 50 so more members have  a chance to look forward to something. So in the same breathe, this would be an interesting feature.

Bear in mind that the objective is not to shame the tipsters but rather as a form of encouragement to win something. We're already at the tail end of current season, it would be an added 'bonus' if it's going to happen soon. But if not feasible yet, perhaps next season onward. Just my 2 cents, thank you for reading.  

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Just my personal view bro. Don’t think it’s a good suggestion to implement. All members will want to strike for a placing in TOP 50 to earn prestigious award.
 




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Even tho its not an easy feat to be in the bottom 50 but i don't think it's a good suggestion. Just like winning 10 consecutive days, losing 10 straight days is also not an easy feat. Even tho its a fun competition, tipsters bet to win and not to lose.
Anyway, we'll leave it to  @AsianBookie  to decide. 




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Interesting, let us have more idea or suggestions from others, then let Mr AB do the decision, thanks Mr Nice ~ 



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This can easily be implemented. However, what will be the medal called? And should someone be able to decline it? I dont believe the bottom 50 at the moment or past seasobs want to be there so if we were to award them for something they were not after, it would be pretty meaningless. 



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quote originally posted by sayusayme:
Even tho its not an easy feat to be in the bottom 50 but i don't think it's a good suggestion. Just like winning 10 consecutive days, losing 10 straight days is also not an easy feat. Even tho its a fun competition, tipsters bet to win and not to lose. Anyway, we'll leave it to  @AsianBookie  to decide. 


Dear Bro sayusayme, you are right that tipsters bet to win and not to lose. But things don't always turn out the way we want it to be. And as you mentioned, this is a fun competition and I'm pretty sure members won't mind as long as they win something and it's not degrading.

In this way, 50 extra medals would be created for 'deserving' winners. Either intentionally or not, at the end of the season, there's something for tipsters to talk or joke about in good faith. 

quote originally posted by AsianBookie:

This can easily be implemented. However, what will be the medal called? And should someone be able to decline it? I dont believe the bottom 50 at the moment or past seasobs want to be there so if we were to award them for something they were not after, it would be pretty meaningless. 


Dear Mr AB, in fact the data for both ends of the spectrum can actually be very useful reference points. Take for example the current leader of the competition who amassed a total of $3.72 million, means there's a surplus of +$2.72 million minus the capital. On the other hand, the current bottom leader who's left with  negative $5.11 million, means a loss of -$6.11 million including the capital. So who has a bigger margin of loss n profit here?

As to whether the proposal is relevant or welcomed by members, we can start a poll and hear GC members' views if necessary. Top winners will be awarded a medal, what about a plate for the bottom winners? Possible names can be Plate Winner, Consolation Winner, Reverse Winner, etc. Once awarded, nobody should be given the option to reject as they're 'deserving' winners. 

Appreciate all Bros' prompt replies and views. Cheers! 




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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
This can easily be implemented. However, what will be the medal called? And should someone be able to decline it? I dont believe the bottom 50 at the moment or past seasobs want to be there so if we were to award them for something they were not after, it would be pretty meaningless.



I support this suggestion because it does give tipsters who are nearer the bottom than the top something to aim for. However, we should restrict the award to the bottom 10 or 20. The number should be lesser to the top 50 in order not to take the shine off the more prestigious award.

As for the medal itself, it can be shaped like a ‘wooden spoon’. 




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quote originally posted by Nice_Guy:
Dear Mr AB,

Should we consider recognising bottom 50 tipsters too for Tipster Championship? As per the discussion in this thread, https://forums.asianbookie.com/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=30&Topic=3257535 many members felt it can serve as a reference point just like the top tipsters as it's really no easy feat. 

Over the years, effort have been put in to spruce up TC hoping to create more fun and attraction for new and old members. Previously recognition was given to Top 20 Tipsters, then extended to Top 50 so more members have  a chance to look forward to something. So in the same breathe, this would be an interesting feature.

Bear in mind that the objective is not to shame the tipsters but rather as a form of encouragement to win something. We're already at the tail end of current season, it would be an added 'bonus' if it's going to happen soon. But if not feasible yet, perhaps next season onward. Just my 2 cents, thank you for reading.  

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Any implementation has to be started right from the beginning and clearly spelled out prior to that in order to be fair for all.
 




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I support this implementation.
It is not an easy feat to achieve the bottom.

Let's name it bottom 10 tipster.
Nothing to be shamed of, to be frank.



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quote originally posted by andyjyneo:
I support this implementation.
It is not an easy feat to achieve the bottom.

Let's name it bottom 10 tipster.
Nothing to be shamed of, to be frank.



I agree bro. It’s a fun competition after all.
I’m sure the bottom 10 tipsters won’t mind having a medal in their avatar, be it a wooden color or otherwise. At least, I wouldn’t.
Of course, this won’t be taken into consideration for AB Tipstership.




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quote originally posted by wembly:
I agree bro. It’s a fun competition after all.
I’m sure the bottom 10 tipsters won’t mind having a medal in their avatar, be it a wooden color or otherwise. At least, I wouldn’t.
Of course, this won’t be taken into consideration for AB Tipstership.




Make it wooden, since it's bottom 10.



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How about this? 



Rock medal (i.e. rock bottom)

This message was edited by AsianBookie on 08-Mar-2019 at 1:11 PM



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How about this? 



Rock medal (i.e. rock bottom) This message was edited by AsianBookie on 08-Mar-2019 at 1:11 PM




 LOL

Where to display this Rock medal ? 



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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

 LOL

Where to display this Rock medal ?




Just display where it has been always displayed.



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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
How about this? 



Rock medal (i.e. rock bottom) This message was edited by AsianBookie on 08-Mar-2019 at 1:11 PM




Nice art work there.



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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
How about this? 



Rock medal (i.e. rock bottom) This message was edited by AsianBookie on 08-Mar-2019 at 1:11 PM




Simply stoned.
I’m sure my fellow hardcore & I will love to don this.




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quote originally posted by andyjyneo:

Just display where it has been always displayed.




 how could such rock medal display beside others medal, as we consider "hard earn" award/medal ? 



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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

 how could such rock medal display beside others medal, as we consider "hard earn" award/medal ?




You think finishing within the top 10 is not hard-earned?
Try achieving it. I’ll give you 1 year.




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quote originally posted by wembly:

You think finishing within the top 10 is not hard-earned?
Try achieving it. I’ll give you 1 year.




Bottom 10 I meant




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You think finishing within the top 10 is not hard-earned?
Try achieving it. I’ll give you 1 year.




You can carry on and I give you 1 year, Asianbookie Tipsters bet to win not to lose. 



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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

 how could such rock medal display beside others medal, as we consider "hard earn" award/medal ?




The attached is found in one of the most popular forum in the world.
Look at how they displayed the medals.
Relevant or irrelevant, they just dump them all in the same place.

This is just a small part.
I can show you more if you're interested.



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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

You can carry on and I give you 1 year, Asianbookie Tipsters bet to win not to lose.




I never say it’s easy. Why must you counter-challenge me instead?
People take part in this competition for different reasons.
 




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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

You can carry on and I give you 1 year, Asianbookie Tipsters bet to win not to lose.




I can tell you mine, though I doubt you’re that interested.
I challenge myself to bet on all the options and try to attain a postive win/ loss record at the end of it.
If I finish in the top 50 or bottom 10, so be it but it shouldn’t happen both ways.
Why do I not try hard, bet conservatively and try to get into the top 50?
Because I have nothing more to prove to others or myself.

Others may perhaps use TC to do a trial to get their actual bets correct.
Not everyone has the same agenda, be it TC or to justify their existence here.




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Guys, stop arguing.
Each and every player has different motives/agenda when comes to TC.

I'm sure most of us would like to race to the top - be it top 100, top 50 or top 10.
But what if I can't manage to race to the top?
I'll race to the bottom.

Things don't always go how and what we wanted in life.
When you want to win, you lose.
When you want to lose, you win.

Conclusion, it's not easy to win all the time, and it's also not easy to lose all the time.
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WOOD?
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KENA CHOP LEFT AND RIGHT




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Hmmm.. there is one problem I can foresee, people cancelling bets to earn the 10% penalty in order to accellerate their race to bottom....It can be quite significant as thunder bigbet x double up its AB$20,000

For this i propose those who have cancelled more than 10 bets in a season are ineligible to win the rock/wood medal. 

 

This message was edited by AsianBookie on 08-Mar-2019 at 2:27 PM



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quote originally posted by andyjyneo:
Guys, stop arguing.
Each and every player has different motives/agenda when comes to TC.

I'm sure most of us would like to race to the top - be it top 100, top 50 or top 10.
But what if I can't manage to race to the top?
I'll race to the bottom.

Things don't always go how and what we wanted in life.
When you want to win, you lose.
When you want to lose, you win.

Conclusion, it's not easy to win all the time, and it's also not easy to lose all the time.
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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
Hmmm.. there is one problem I can foresee, people cancelling bets to earn the 10% penalty in order to accellerate their race to bottom....




Good point bro.
Why not this?
If one is in the bottom 100 at any time, this penalty is waived




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Hmmm.. there is one problem I can foresee, people cancelling bets to earn the 10% penalty in order to accellerate their race to bottom....




Dear Mr AB, IF i say IF, really want to add-in this bottom challenge, kindly start by next season...

I really do not want a rock medal to hang out there... 



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LOL 



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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

Dear Mr AB, IF i say IF, really want to add-in this bottom challenge, kindly start by next season...

I really do not want a rock medal to hang out there...




I’ve already suggested this & Mr AB ‘liked’ my suggestion




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Yes definately not this season as its 3 days left. It will be for the next

 



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Good point bro.
Why not this?
If one is in the bottom 100 at any time, this penalty is waived




good idea, will do this instead



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Hmmm.. there is one problem I can foresee, people cancelling bets to earn the 10% penalty in order to accellerate their race to bottom....It can be quite significant as thunder bigbet x double up its AB$20,000

For this i propose those who have cancelled more than 10 bets in a season are ineligible to win the rock/wood medal. 

  This message was edited by AsianBookie on 08-Mar-2019 at 2:27 PM



Great !! Phew... 
 



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Yes definately not this season as its 3 days left. It will be for the next




Thanks ~ 



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Great !! Phew... 




haha i can see you really dont want this medal. Don't worry its very difficult to attain, even if you get it you can PM me to remove it



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haha i can see you really dont want this medal. Don't worry its very difficult to attain, even if you get it you can PM me to remove it



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quote originally posted by wembly:



Also to prevent those just outside the bottom 100 to employ this tactic in order to squeeze into the bottom 10 ( they’ll have to do many cancellations to achieve that in reality and it may not be possible even) on the last few days to squeeze into the bottom 10, we can even extend this waiver to the bottom 200 during those last days.



To keep it simple, we'll just employ both. In reality most people don't even cancel their bets (at most 3-5 times a season).

1. bottom 100 no cancellation penalty
2. more than 10 cancel bets in a season ineligible.


 



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Nicer than the stone but don’t need to exaggerate the size.




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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

Dear Mr AB, IF i say IF, really want to add-in this bottom challenge, kindly start by next season...

I really do not want a rock medal to hang out there...




Boss, what's there to be embarrass about that bottom 10?
I would like to have one, if i can achieve that.

Imagine if someone mock me on that, I'll ask him/her, if you can get it, come and get it. Do you seriously think it's that easy to achieve this limited medal?



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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
To keep it simple, we'll just employ both. In reality most people don't even cancel their bets (at most 3-5 times a season).

1. bottom 100 no cancellation penalty
2. more than 10 cancel bets in a season ineligible.

 




10 cancellations seems a little stringent.
Can the no of cancellations be clearly indicated as well for tipsters who strive for this award




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quote originally posted by andyjyneo:

Boss, what's there to be embarrass about that bottom 10?
I would like to have one, if i can achieve that.

Imagine if someone mock me on that, I'll ask him/her, if you can get it, come and get it. Do you seriously think it's that easy to achieve this limited medal?




I will personally go for it next season since it’s a new medal and something missing in my armaments 




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quote originally posted by wembly:

I will personally go for it next season since it’s a new medal and something missing in my armaments




Count me in.
You've a competitor here.
But what I'm afraid of is, I'll drag my team down too.



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Congrats Bro  @wembly for being reinstated and also glad to see further discussions on this humble topic, the second in line after Bro  @andyjyneo 's no post count in gc topic. 

quote originally posted by Nice_Guy:
Dear Mr AB, Should we consider recognising bottom 50 tipsters too for Tipster Championship?  

Previously recognition was given to Top 20 Tipsters, then extended to Top 50 so more members have  a chance to look forward to something. So in the same breathe, this would be an interesting feature.

We're already at the tail end of current season, it would be an added 'bonus' if it's going to happen soon. But if not feasible yet, perhaps next season onward


In case my points were missed or needed clarity, kindly refer to the highlighted sections again. My preference for bottom 50 remains and don't think it will ever take the shine off the prestigious top 50.

If we could consider extending rewards from 20 to Top 50 in the past, bottom 10 or 20 could also be extended to 50 one fine day. Isn't it, Mr  @AsianBookie? Some of us may disagree now but who can possibly predict as the forum continues to evolve? Surely not many members could envision the changes/improvements in AB since inception.  

My whole point for suggesting 50 in quantity as it balances the top awards on the other end of the spectrum. There will be 100 awards in total up for grabs (willingly or otherwise) by almost 5000 competitiors. That's equivalent to only 0.02% of medal recipients for the entire season. Could we be a little bit more generous? Please consider if possible. Everyone starts from scratch next season, so no question about fairness I suppose.

quote originally posted by AsianBookie:

How about this?  Rock medal (i.e. rock bottom) This message was edited by AsianBookie on 08-Mar-2019 at 1:11 PM


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quote originally posted by wembly:
I will personally go for it next season since it’s a new medal and something missing in my armaments 


Me too, Bro! Now that's something to look forward to in case we end up at the bottom half of the tier at mid point of next season. 

quote originally posted by andyjyneo:

Count me in. You've a competitor here. But what I'm afraid of is, I'll drag my team down too.


You have my support, Bro! Any medals prestigious or consolation is good for you as well as the team. Your achievement is also the team's achievement. 
 




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quote originally posted by Nice_Guy:
In case my points were missed or needed clarity, kindly refer to the highlighted sections again. My preference for bottom 50 remains and don't think it will ever take the shine off the prestigious top 50.

If we could consider extending rewards from 20 to Top 50 in the past, bottom 10 or 20 could also be extended to 50 one fine day. Isn't it, Mr  @AsianBookie? Some of us may disagree now but who can possibly predict as the forum continues to evolve? Surely not many members could envision the changes/improvements in AB since inception.  

My whole point for suggesting 50 in quantity as it balances the top awards on the other end of the spectrum. There will be 100 awards in total up for grabs (willingly or otherwise) by almost 5000 competitiors. That's equivalent to only 0.02% of medal recipients for the entire season. Could we be a little bit more generous? Please consider if possible. Everyone starts from scratch next season, so no question about fairness I suppose.

Meaningful and nice-looking medal, Mr AB. Clap clap!


No,. that is too many medals. It will be for only bottom 10 for a start. 



 



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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
No,. that is too many medals. It will be for only bottom 10 for a start. 


Alright, boss. Thanks for your consideration, will be looking forward to it next season.

p/s: On another note with regards to TC Teams, see if anything refreshing can be injected to boost / give meaning to the teams' existence. Appreciated. 




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quote originally posted by Nice_Guy:
Me too, Bro! Now that's something to look forward to in case we end up at the bottom half of the tier at mid point of next season. 

You have my support, Bro! Any medals prestigious or consolation is good for you as well as the team. Your achievement is also the team's achievement. 




Thank you, leader.
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quote originally posted by wembly:

I will personally go for it next season since it’s a new medal and something missing in my armaments




Congratulations on your reinstatement, by the way, bro.
It's a medal worth collecting indeed.



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Frankly speak I don’t agree to bottom medal la ....


In ab all want face one lo.....


Simple a bit ya .... we post pick also hope can win Ma......


As I say 国有国法 家有家规。

If being approve gd luck to all of us .....

Just hope I won’t take this medal ?




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Frankly speak I don’t agree to bottom medal la ....


In ab all want face one lo.....


Simple a bit ya .... we post pick also hope can win Ma......


As I say 国有国法 家有家规。

If being approve gd luck to all of us .....

Just hope I won’t take this medal ?

 




You have the choice to reject should you end up there.
So, that won’t be an issue right?




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quote originally posted by wembly:

You have the choice to reject should you end up there.
So, that won’t be an issue right?


Can reject one???


Since you can take up the challenge... I admire it.... till now I won’t scare take any challenge here✌️✌️




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Can reject one???


Since you can take up the challenge... I admire it.... till now I won’t scare take any challenge here✌️✌️




Yes, this bottom 10 medals can be rejected.
Any award can be rejected if you choose to reject.
Anything except yellow and red cards.




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Yes, this bottom 10 medals can be rejected.
Any award can be rejected if you choose to reject.
Anything except yellow and red cards.


What the point of this medal can be rejected?

In Chinese ......


愿赌服输。

Make it cannot reject one la .......

Let fight it out ✌️✌️




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quote originally posted by SUPERBOYS:

What the point of this medal can be rejected?

In Chinese ......


愿赌服输。

Make it cannot reject one la .......

Let fight it out ✌️✌️




Because you reject doesn’t mean others will not accept.
If at the end, most members reject than I will suggest for this medal to be scraped.
That is the reason why TS asked for inputs. 
I believe in ‘majority wins’.

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Because you reject doesn’t mean others will not accept.
If at the end, most members reject than I will suggest for this medal to be scraped.
That is the reason why TS asked for inputs. 
I believe in ‘majority wins’.
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Ok understand ??




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quote originally posted by SUPERBOYS:
Frankly speak I don’t agree to bottom medal la ....


In ab all want face one lo.....


Simple a bit ya .... we post pick also hope can win Ma......


As I say 国有国法 家有家规。

If being approve gd luck to all of us .....

Just hope I won’t take this medal ?

 

I believe will be more suggestion coming in,  thanks for your thought ~ 
 



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quote originally posted by SUPERBOYS:
Frankly speak I don’t agree to bottom medal la ....


In ab all want face one lo.....


Simple a bit ya .... we post pick also hope can win Ma......


As I say 国有国法 家有家规。

If being approve gd luck to all of us .....

Just hope I won’t take this medal ?

 




As I've said earlier, are you up to this game?
Not easy to achieve bottom 10, to be frank.
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As I've said earlier, are you up to this game?
Not easy to achieve bottom 10, to be frank.
If you think you're god damn unlucky till lose 10 days continuously, there'll always be someone who's worse than you.
Conclusion, nobody is on top all the time.



For my view indeed not easy to hit bottom 10 ....

i willing to take up this challenge ✌️✌️✌️
 




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quote originally posted by SIFEILOW:

quote originally posted by SUPERBOYS:






Frankly speak I don’t agree to bottom medal la ....
In ab all want face one lo.....
Simple a bit ya .... we post pick also hope can win Ma......
As I say 国有国法 家有家规。
If being approve gd luck to all of us .....
Just hope I won’t take this medal ?

 

I believe will be more suggestion coming in,  thanks for your thought ~ 
 


I also don't think is a good idea to have this medal. I know is hard to achieve bottom 10 but for those who wants to achieve this medal, will you be posting yr undesired picks? If not, don't u think that yr followers will be confuse by yr action if you post a desire picks in forum but place an opp bet in TC? One more thing is will the member get carded by posting an opp pick from his TC? I remember I saw a couple of members get carded because of this action.




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I also don't think is a good idea to have this medal. I know is hard to achieve bottom 10 but for those who wants to achieve this medal, will you be posting yr undesired picks? If not, don't u think that yr followers will be confuse by yr action if you post a desire picks in forum but place an opp bet in TC? One more thing is will the member get carded by posting an opp pick from his TC? I remember I saw a couple of members get carded because of this action.



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quote originally posted by LaNceLoRd:

I also don't think is a good idea to have this medal. I know is hard to achieve bottom 10 but for those who wants to achieve this medal, will you be posting yr undesired picks? If not, don't u think that yr followers will be confuse by yr action if you post a desire picks in forum but place an opp bet in TC? One more thing is will the member get carded by posting an opp pick from his TC? I remember I saw a couple of members get carded because of this action.




You can always tell them that your TC bets will be opposite from what you post in the thread itself.
For example, if you’re posting @ the wrong forum and has indicated so at the beginning, then admins will not issue any warning.

On the other hand, if someone were simply viewing your TC bets without knowing about what you post, seeing that you’re at the bottom, I doubt he/ she will follow you. In every probability, your picks will be opposed. This is your intention also.

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You can always tell them that your TC bets will be opposite from what you post in the thread  itself


In that case I hope all members that wants to achieve this medal, pls remember to inform yr followers. It will be bad if anyone forget to let their own followers know beforehand.




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You can always tell them that your TC bets will be opposite from what you post in the thread itself.
For example, if you’re posting @ the wrong forum and has indicated so at the beginning, then admins will not issue any warning.
On the other hand, if someone were simply viewing your TC bets without knowing about what you post, seeing that you’re at the bottom, I doubt he/ she will follow you. In every probability, your picks will be opposed. This is your intention also.
This message was edited by wembly on 09-Mar-2019 at 4:08 PM


I think the best way to know this medal will work is to go for a trial in 1 TC season. After the trial can see is there any other problems arise & how other members feel.




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In that case I hope all members that wants to achieve this medal, pls remember to inform yr followers. It will be bad if anyone forget to let their own followers know beforehand.




That is part and parcel about posting responsibly for the sake of AB and your followers. 

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I think the best way to know this medal will work is to go for a trial in 1 TC season. After the trial can see is there any other problems arise & how other members feel.




Trial as in no medals at the end of it?
Then dishonest members won’t resort to tricks/ loopholes. The trial would serve no purpose.




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That is part and parcel about posting responsibly for the sake of AB and your followers. I 


I agreed to the post responsibly but like I say, I afraid some might forget to let their followers know, human being can be forgetful at sometimes. What if they really forget to input, just imagine a few others follow the TC bet & lose?




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Trial as in no medals at the end of it?
Then dishonest members won’t resort to tricks/ loopholes. The trial would serve no purpose.


Like u mention tricks/ loopholes, this is why a trial is needed so that will know & improve.




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quote originally posted by LaNceLoRd:

I agreed to the post responsibly but like I say, I afraid some might forget to let their followers know, human being can be forgetful at sometimes. What if they really forget to input, just imagine a few others follow the TC bet & lose?




If they are your die-hard followers, after mentioning once or twice, they should already know.
Admins will too bro. We will verify thoroughly before we dish out our cards.
In any case, your position near the bottom of the TC table will tell a tale. 

In most cases, followers will follow your picks rather than TC.
Because of this implementation, I will suggest to webmaster that admins not take action when a member’s posted picks are opposite from his TC bets.  @AsianBookie , you agree to this?




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Like u mention tricks/ loopholes, this is why a trial is needed so that will know & improve.




I think you don’t get my point.
If the trial comes without rewards, then people won’t resort to tricks and the issue won’t surface.
Eg. If no medals are awarded for top 50, do members still need to employ mulitnicks to take part?

Always remember that apart from serving yourself in the pursuit of medals or perhaps even just killing time, TC serves the forum in that it provides useful stats for us with our actual bets. This is often overlooked. It was for this purpose that multinicks that finished in the top 50 were not disqualified but simply had their medals withheld.

If TC comes with no rewards at either end, a huge part of this intention is lost because most wont take TC seriously.

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I think you don’t get my point.
If the trial comes without rewards, then people won’t resort to tricks and the issue won’t surface.
Eg. If no medals are awarded for top 50, do members still need to employ mulitnicks to take part?


I understood, what I mean is when trial period ends, the medal still be given out. During this trial period, we can see will there be any problems arise that we can't think of it right now. From there then can know what are the improvement that can be made.




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I understood, what I mean is when trial period ends, the medal still be given out. During this trial period, we can see will there be any problems arise that we can't think of it right now. From there then can know what are the improvement that can be made.




Of course. Isn’t everyday AB is having trials? On how to improve the forum and how to solve problems.
Life is itself a trial. We learn new things and improve ourselves as we go along.




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Of course. Isn’t everyday AB is having trials? On how to improve the forum and how to solve problems.
Life is itself a trial. We learn new things and improve ourselves as we go along.


Yupz, anyway this is my opinion. I just voice out what are the scenario that might happen or may not happen. Whatever it is, as long Mr AB thinks is feasible, I believe all of us will agreed.




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If they are your die-hard followers, after mentioning once or twice, they should already know.
Admins will too bro. We will verify thoroughly before we dish out our cards.
In any case, your position near the bottom of the TC table will tell a tale. 

In most cases, followers will follow your picks rather than TC.
Because of this implementation, I will suggest to webmaster that admins not take action when a member’s posted picks are opposite from his TC bets.  @AsianBookie , you agree to this?



There should not be any action taken to those who post in forum and bet differently in TC. Different people use TC for different reasons. 

 



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Yupz, anyway this is my opinion. I just voice out what are the scenario that might happen or may not happen. Whatever it is, as long Mr AB thinks is feasible, I believe all of us will agreed.




Yes, Bro. We will do our part by voicing all the issues when they surface in the course of our journey here and if possible, recommend a solution or alternative way.




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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
There should not be any action taken to those who post in forum and bet differently in TC. Different people use TC for different reasons. 




Very good and clear decision. SUPPORT! 




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12-Mar 2019 Tuesday 10:13 PM (1871 days ago)            #81
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quote originally posted by Nice_Guy:
Bottom 10 Tipsters above this line will receive prizes at the end of NEXT season (Rock bottom medal)

Thanks everyone who participated. For good or bad, we'll see how the implementation goes. Looking forward!




No negative figures for the rock medal.




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15-Aug 2019 Thursday 1:48 PM (1715 days ago)            #82
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I believe this suggestion has truly taken off and more at the wrong end of the TC table are looking to attain the ‘rock’ medal than to avoid it. 

This shows that appropriate changes and not status quo are needed to better the forum.

Once again, thanks  @Nice_Guy  for this suggestion.




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